Todd Fraser on 18-03-2012
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Matthew MacPartlin wrote 03-24-2012 06:02:27 pm
My understanding of the use of SMR is similar; ie it is virtually meaningless, but less so if you are comparing units with a similar role deliniation serving similar populations. And therein lies the difficulty, as has been the case when trying to apply trial findings to individual units.
I don't know what the best option is (and perhaps it is in our interest not to find one, lest it be twisted into a MyICU national league table) but maybe the SMR could be tailored into a relative-SMR-for-population-served, the trend of which might be more insightful than a one-off data point (think physiological static measurement versus trend).
Carl Horsley wrote 04-23-2012 07:24:46 am
Is mortality the only outcome of value for patients? While everyone would want the best chance of surviving if they or their family members were in an ICU, there are other aspects we would all value including not having harm done, LOS, communication, rehabilitation times etc. SMR is such a blunt tool for measuring outcomes and is certainly not the only patient-valued outcome.
Todd Fraser wrote 04-23-2012 10:31:55 am
No doubt you're right Carl.
This is becoming an area of interest for ICU research now, isn't it. The podcast I did with Neil some time ago reflects a lot of these issues - something I hadn't spent a whole lot of time thinking about. But the long term outcomes for survivors of ICU are not great. We need to put some effort into that.
As for measuring performance based on QAL outcomes, I'd imagine this would be even more difficult.
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